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Pre-marital sex

I have a question. Is it forbidden for a Noahide to have pre-marital sex?

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RE: Pre-marital sex

The relevant verse in the Torah states (Genesis 2:24):

"Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and cling to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."

This means that the "clinging" by a man which the verse refers to (which is sexual intercourse) should be with "his wife." In the Torah context for Gentiles, "his wife" means a woman who dedicates herself to establish her home with the man (whether or not he resides in this home of his full-time), for the purpose of a publicly known marriage relationship between them (whether or not there are any secular legal documents filed).

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Director Michael Wrote:
The relevant verse in the Torah states (Genesis 2:24):

"Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and cling to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."

This means that the "clinging" by a man which the verse refers to (which is sexual intercourse) should be with "his wife." In the Torah context for Gentiles, "his wife" means a woman who dedicates herself to establish her home with the man (whether or not he resides in this home of his full-time), for the purpose of a publicly known marriage relationship between them (whether or not there are any secular legal documents filed).


By reading the above information, it would appear that a monogamous relationship is then permitted even if there is no formal marriage?

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RE: Pre-marital sex

There needs to be a marriage *at least* by the Torah's minimum standards for Gentiles. This means that it is publicly known that the couple is living together in the manner of husband and wife.

Certification of the marriage within the secular system is recommended, since this system provides
(1) extra protection against the possibility of a couple entering a marriage-type relationship and one party not being aware that the other party is already married;
(2) secular legal protection for the secular legal rights of both parties, and especially for the woman.

It is also a righteous practice, and it adds to the level of the marriage bond, if the couple strengthens their marriage relationship with a written marriage contract that satisfies the standards of the secular legal system for binding contracts. We have posted an *example* of a recommended Noahide wedding contract on our web page

http://www.asknoah.org/HTML/noahide_marriage.html

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The young people often couldn't resist themselves from having relation and that too the age makes them to get attracted very often. If the relation get intimate before the above mentioned certification, then what the Noahide do to obey a proper code of conduct on them ?


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The advice is for a young person not to get involved at all with intimate relations until both of the partners are ready and willing to actually get married (see post #4 above). One of the most helpful things that parents can do to help their children through this particular challenge of adolescence (starting at the latest from the age of puberty) is to send their sons to an all-boys school, and their daughters to an all-girls school. Schools should not offer mixed-gender social events (dances, proms, etc.), because that is just like throwing gasoline on a fire. Parents also need to set boundaries for their children's social lives. A wise policy is not to go on unchaperoned dates until the young man and young woman have gotten well acquainted without intimacy, and they are seriously considering if they want (and are ready and able) to get married.

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It seems that greater availability of these birth control methods leads people to think that they have more freedom for casual/recreational sexual intercourse outside of marriage. This is symptomatic of the prevailing moral breakdown in modern societies. In such an atmosphere, it's certainly important for parents to set limits for their children, and to educate them about the equivalent immorality of non-marital casual/recreational sexual intercourse and prostitution, both of which are destabilizing to society (see Leviticus 19:29).

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If a man and woman have a committed partnership, but they are not able to live in the same place at the current time but plan to in the future and would already if it were possible, would this meet the minimum requirement for non-licentiousness? Also, if a couple are engaged to be a legally married couple, it wouldn't be necessary to wait until after they are legally married or after the wedding, is this correct? Would it still be worthwhile to do so?

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Daniel2 Wrote:
If a man and woman have a committed partnership, but they are not able to live in the same place at the current time but plan to in the future and would already if it were possible, would this meet the minimum requirement for non-licentiousness?


The onus would be on the woman, to openly let a number of her local friends know that she is in this committed long-distance relationship, and to not go out on dates or be intimate with any other men. It would be a good thing to go ahead and get legally married, since the couple has the commitment for marriage and they want to be intimate, but they can't yet live together. If the couple wants to postpone their full-scale wedding ceremony with family and friends, that could be done later when they finally have the ability to live together on a permanent basis. In the meantime, they could simply go to a courthouse or a mayor's office to get legally married. The purpose is to make their relationship public knowledge, which otherwise would be lacking due to their geographic separation.

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Also, if a couple are engaged to be a legally married couple, it wouldn't be necessary to wait until after they are legally married or after the wedding, is this correct? Would it still be worthwhile to do so?


It would be worthwhile to wait until they are moving in together.

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