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Taxation
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B"H

a. When a ruling government is accepted by the people, the law "dina de'malchusa dina" applies, regardless how just and fitting to the Seven Laws the government is. (It's clear that if a government law requires a person to directly transgress one of the 7 Noahide Laws, one should not transgress, with the exception that some leniencies are permitted in order to preserve one's life.)

b. If the people don't like the type of government they have, they will either eventually revolt, or vote to change the government or its policies if possible. I am stating this as an historical fact, not a law.

c. Obviously there are extreme situations (such as a tyrannical dictator) in which people evade the government's laws since they (justly) don't accept this type of governing, but they are afraid to express themselves. This eventually leads to a general changing of the government, since when people are not happy and accepting of the situation, they don't follow the laws, and the government becomes ineffective. When the government doesn't have the cooperation of the people, the government will either fall apart or become tyrannical. The former USSR is an example of this (the process of falling apart took over 60 years, and the change happened quickly).

d. The "people" mentioned here are the vast majority. There will always be minorities that don't accept the government or its rules for one reason or another.

e. For all the western societies with governments today, although none are "righteous Gentiles" (in the complete sense) since they don't heed to the Noahide Law (completely), they have been keeping justice between people to a level that has kept peace in the society. Therefore their laws in those areas are dinim, since they are made for the upkeep of the society.

f. The Sages of the Talmud foretold that shortly before the true Messiah comes, the world governments will turn to heresy. This, and the accompanying difficulties, are provided as a test of faith.
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Taxation - by Zulske - 03-08-2012, 01:28 PM
RE: Taxation - by Rabbi Moshe Weiner - 03-09-2012, 04:36 AM
RE: Taxation - by Director Michael - 03-09-2012, 04:42 AM
RE: Taxation - by Zulske - 03-09-2012, 05:47 AM
RE: Taxation - by Director Michael - 03-13-2012, 11:15 AM
RE: Taxation - by Mattityahu ben Noach - 03-15-2012, 04:44 PM
RE: Taxation - by Director Michael - 03-16-2012, 06:44 PM
RE: Taxation - by Zulske - 03-17-2012, 05:04 PM
RE: Taxation - by Director Michael - 03-20-2012, 04:48 PM
RE: Taxation - by amenyahu - 03-28-2013, 01:54 AM
RE: Taxation - by Director Michael - 04-10-2013, 03:18 PM
RE: Taxation - by amenyahu - 04-16-2013, 11:34 PM
RE: Taxation - by Director Michael - 04-17-2013, 06:52 AM
RE: Taxation - by amenyahu - 04-24-2013, 05:08 PM
RE: Taxation - by Director Michael - 04-27-2013, 07:14 AM
RE: Taxation - by amenyahu - 05-03-2013, 11:47 PM
RE: Taxation - by Rabbi Moshe Weiner - 05-08-2013, 03:27 AM
RE: Taxation - by amenyahu - 05-08-2013, 09:27 AM
RE: Taxation - by Director Michael - 05-08-2013, 06:04 PM
RE: Taxation - by amenyahu - 05-10-2013, 10:45 AM
RE: Taxation - by Director Michael - 05-18-2013, 10:11 AM
Dinim: Courts or Government - by amenyahu - 07-08-2013, 09:00 PM
RE: Taxation - by Director Michael - 07-09-2013, 12:08 AM
RE: Taxation - by amenyahu - 07-09-2013, 12:59 AM
RE: Taxation - by Director Michael - 07-10-2013, 03:53 PM
RE: Taxation - by amenyahu - 07-13-2013, 05:53 PM
RE: Taxation - by Director Michael - 07-14-2013, 07:44 PM
RE: Taxation - by amenyahu - 07-14-2013, 09:21 PM
RE: Taxation - by Director Michael - 07-21-2013, 07:04 PM
RE: Taxation - by cheryl - 10-19-2013, 10:15 PM

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