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70 Biblical nations
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It seems that some people think the work "goy" [one of the Hebrew terms for "non-Jew"] is an insult. Here is the most recent exchange between myself and one such person.

Quote:Him: And how dare you, a Goy yourself, use that term? What is wrong with you?

Me: What's wrong with calling a person what he is? "Goy" is not an insult. It is sheer ignorance that would make somebody think it was an insult. It literally means "nation." It is used throughout Hebrew Scriptures. One of the first instances I know of is in reference to Ishmael, the son of Abraham. HaShem tells Abraham, "As for your son, Ishmael, I heard you... He too shall be a great nation." Genesis 17:20. In the Hebrew, it says, "u'netativ legoy gadol."
Not only that, but the word "goy" is applied to the Jewish people (the Israelite nation).
Exodus 19:6 - "And you [the Jews] shall be to Me a kingdom of princes and a holy nation. These are the words that you shall speak to the children of Israel." In Hebrew: Ve'atem tiheyu-li mamlechet kohanim vegoy kadosh. Eleh hadevarim asher tedaber el-beney Yisra'el.

Him: The word it is an insult. Secondly, it means "nation" as in specifically OTHER - Jews never call themselves "Goy." Therefore either you don't know what you're talking about, or you are being obnoxious. Which is it? Only Jews would be "Goyim" to you, unless you are a Jew.

So I am taking his advice, and asking an expert.
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Goy is NOT an insult, is it? - by Mattityahu ben Noach - 11-11-2009, 03:08 AM
RE: asking an expert - by rabbiyitz - 11-11-2009, 05:10 AM
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