https://www.asknoah.org/forum/ Fri, 24 Apr 2026 04:20:50 +0000 MyBB https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=1897 Sun, 23 Dec 2012 00:13:17 +0000 amenyahu]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=1897
1) Someone told me that the Talmud says in Tractate Hullin that there were no idolators outside of the Land of Israel, and that this still applies today.

2) Some take this to say that worshiping a sheetuf (intermediary) is OK for Gentiles as part of the definition of sheetuf that is not forbidden to Gentiles to practice, and I emphasize the word "practice" as opposed to believe. Now I know that final sentence contradicts the footnote in "The Divine Code" - footnote 9, page 138.

3) But does the earlier statement and mention of Hullin agree with what is said in Part 1, Chapter 4, topic 2 of "The Divine Code" which seems to imply that since a Gentile lived in a community that didn't know/teach the seven commandments, he is not liable for worshipping idols if he does, since he wasn't taught?]]>
1) Someone told me that the Talmud says in Tractate Hullin that there were no idolators outside of the Land of Israel, and that this still applies today.

2) Some take this to say that worshiping a sheetuf (intermediary) is OK for Gentiles as part of the definition of sheetuf that is not forbidden to Gentiles to practice, and I emphasize the word "practice" as opposed to believe. Now I know that final sentence contradicts the footnote in "The Divine Code" - footnote 9, page 138.

3) But does the earlier statement and mention of Hullin agree with what is said in Part 1, Chapter 4, topic 2 of "The Divine Code" which seems to imply that since a Gentile lived in a community that didn't know/teach the seven commandments, he is not liable for worshipping idols if he does, since he wasn't taught?]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=470 Sun, 12 Sep 2010 19:58:07 +0000 Ben_Noach_AZ]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=470
I've searched online for views on this and most seem to agree that it is not permitted for Jewish folks. However, is this forbidden to a non-Jew? So far, I haven't really heard any mention of other gods or anything that would raise a red flag. But even so, my intent is to lose weight and to relieve stress.

If it is forbidden, is there any other permissible form of these programs you can recommend?

Shanah Tova!

Miguel]]>
I've searched online for views on this and most seem to agree that it is not permitted for Jewish folks. However, is this forbidden to a non-Jew? So far, I haven't really heard any mention of other gods or anything that would raise a red flag. But even so, my intent is to lose weight and to relieve stress.

If it is forbidden, is there any other permissible form of these programs you can recommend?

Shanah Tova!

Miguel]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=411 Sun, 31 Jan 2010 02:04:49 +0000 Daniel2]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=411 https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=2022 Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:00:38 +0000 Finch]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=2022
Here are a few examples:

1) How far should it be pushed to not have any idolatrous books or items in the home? If it would cause major discord in the marriage to discard such items, how should this be handled?

2) Prayer: If a Noahide leads a prayer to the God of Abraham for the family at mealtime, their spouse who follows another religion may be saying the prayer in their heart to "the God of Abraham" as they have been taught from the doctrinal perspective of their religion. Should a Noahide refrain from open prayer in such an instance?

In general, it seems to me that you can't push the faith of the Noahide laws on a spouse or family member that believes otherwise. I think a better approach is to live according to the laws, and hope that the gentle persuasion of your actions and lifestyle convince them to follow suit. Is this the best approach? It seems that there is a balancing act that needs to be done to maintain family harmony while also staying faithful to the Noahide laws. In my case, I love my wife and sincerely pray that she will become an observant Noahide in time, but I am not sure of the proper path to encourage this.]]>
Here are a few examples:

1) How far should it be pushed to not have any idolatrous books or items in the home? If it would cause major discord in the marriage to discard such items, how should this be handled?

2) Prayer: If a Noahide leads a prayer to the God of Abraham for the family at mealtime, their spouse who follows another religion may be saying the prayer in their heart to "the God of Abraham" as they have been taught from the doctrinal perspective of their religion. Should a Noahide refrain from open prayer in such an instance?

In general, it seems to me that you can't push the faith of the Noahide laws on a spouse or family member that believes otherwise. I think a better approach is to live according to the laws, and hope that the gentle persuasion of your actions and lifestyle convince them to follow suit. Is this the best approach? It seems that there is a balancing act that needs to be done to maintain family harmony while also staying faithful to the Noahide laws. In my case, I love my wife and sincerely pray that she will become an observant Noahide in time, but I am not sure of the proper path to encourage this.]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=376 Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:01:57 +0000 Joachim ben Noach]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=376
Part II Topic 9:3 (page 225) in "The Divine Code" Vol I. states,
It is permitted to benefit from an offering brought to a mountain or a sea, or any other natural entity that is attached to the earth, and the offered item does not become forbidden...

What is the ruling of an offering brought to a cloud?]]>
Part II Topic 9:3 (page 225) in "The Divine Code" Vol I. states,
It is permitted to benefit from an offering brought to a mountain or a sea, or any other natural entity that is attached to the earth, and the offered item does not become forbidden...

What is the ruling of an offering brought to a cloud?]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=360 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:07:48 +0000 Pianohero]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=360 https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=304 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:30:41 +0000 Elizabeth78]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=304
Thank you for your previous response! I have another question. My son is currently in boyscouts, and he volunteered to be the troops Chaplain. He does not mention the names of false idols, and the prayers he recites are appropriate and relate only to G-D.

Normally, the term Chaplain applies in a Xtian context, so I am curious if my son can (or should) wear the Chaplain badge and continue in this role. The badge does not have any references to idol worship so I don't believe it's an accessory to idol worship. May I have your thoughts?

Thank you!]]>
Thank you for your previous response! I have another question. My son is currently in boyscouts, and he volunteered to be the troops Chaplain. He does not mention the names of false idols, and the prayers he recites are appropriate and relate only to G-D.

Normally, the term Chaplain applies in a Xtian context, so I am curious if my son can (or should) wear the Chaplain badge and continue in this role. The badge does not have any references to idol worship so I don't believe it's an accessory to idol worship. May I have your thoughts?

Thank you!]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=222 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:31:23 +0000 Bill]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=222
If I did not do this job my boss would be unhappy with me which would affect my future income capabilities. Also just because I refuse to do the job does not mean it would not be done. Either some other company would do it or, more likely, my employer would have someone else do it.

My question, does my work fall under the category of helping others practice idol worship? The work is not located in the actual "sanctuary" and those times I might have to go in there I refrain from any semblance of bowing or paying respect to the lectern which is what they consider the "altar."

NOTE: I also do not demonstrate any disrespect for anyone I see there and while I refrain from any vain or vulgar talk and demand the same from my helpers I make it clear that it is not because of the location but rather one should act that way at all times.]]>
If I did not do this job my boss would be unhappy with me which would affect my future income capabilities. Also just because I refuse to do the job does not mean it would not be done. Either some other company would do it or, more likely, my employer would have someone else do it.

My question, does my work fall under the category of helping others practice idol worship? The work is not located in the actual "sanctuary" and those times I might have to go in there I refrain from any semblance of bowing or paying respect to the lectern which is what they consider the "altar."

NOTE: I also do not demonstrate any disrespect for anyone I see there and while I refrain from any vain or vulgar talk and demand the same from my helpers I make it clear that it is not because of the location but rather one should act that way at all times.]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=219 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:36:27 +0000 noahidecanada]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=219
From what i understood, prefect 3 dimensional reproduction of a full human or angel is forbidden .

Now tell me if those things are legal to make, sell or own.
I'm giving modern examples:

-Superman doll for kids
-Elvis presley ( wax statue )
-Female mannequin ( store window display for clothes)]]>
From what i understood, prefect 3 dimensional reproduction of a full human or angel is forbidden .

Now tell me if those things are legal to make, sell or own.
I'm giving modern examples:

-Superman doll for kids
-Elvis presley ( wax statue )
-Female mannequin ( store window display for clothes)]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=182 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:54:27 +0000 greenjuice]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=182
Application to gentiles: Required?

but it seems to be required to destroy a statue or a cross only if you own it, not if it's a property of another.]]>
Application to gentiles: Required?

but it seems to be required to destroy a statue or a cross only if you own it, not if it's a property of another.]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=180 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:12:08 +0000 bdschuh]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=180
G-d bless.]]>
G-d bless.]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=143 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:19:37 +0000 noodle]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=143
What type of fellowship is acceptable if there is no Jewish community near? The nearest Jewish community of any kind is over 60 miles away and only meets together about once per month. The nearest Orthodox Jewish community is nearly 100 miles away from me. Is it idolatrous to seek local fellowship?]]>
What type of fellowship is acceptable if there is no Jewish community near? The nearest Jewish community of any kind is over 60 miles away and only meets together about once per month. The nearest Orthodox Jewish community is nearly 100 miles away from me. Is it idolatrous to seek local fellowship?]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=140 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:47:55 +0000 Nika]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=140 https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=98 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:02:34 +0000 ProudNoachide]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=98 All of my family does Xmas, and now I have two new sons-in-laws whose big families I HAVE to visit and they do Xmas, plus my kids and everyone always exchanges gifts, and expect me to spend a ton of money on them, like always. While you said in another post I can keep a gift I get, if I can visit them on Xmas, can I eat? Can I give a present to loved ones in the days before Xmas but say it's not an Xmas present (or Hanukkah gift)? I want to obey the Torah and create the least amount of hard feelings from my kids, grandkids and sons-in-laws families. They also strongly expect me to come over for their other holidays. But I wouldn't really be honoring or celebrating that holiday in my heart?
Thank you!]]> All of my family does Xmas, and now I have two new sons-in-laws whose big families I HAVE to visit and they do Xmas, plus my kids and everyone always exchanges gifts, and expect me to spend a ton of money on them, like always. While you said in another post I can keep a gift I get, if I can visit them on Xmas, can I eat? Can I give a present to loved ones in the days before Xmas but say it's not an Xmas present (or Hanukkah gift)? I want to obey the Torah and create the least amount of hard feelings from my kids, grandkids and sons-in-laws families. They also strongly expect me to come over for their other holidays. But I wouldn't really be honoring or celebrating that holiday in my heart?
Thank you!]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=76 Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:55:06 +0000 Torahstudent]]> https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=76 In my house, we have quite a large and expensive collection of American Indian pottery. I noticed that some of the pottery pieces have designs and paintings on them that, I would assume, are ancient Native American gods. Some of them look like kachina dolls, and some of the designs look like the sun with a face on it, etc. Is it OK for me to have these things in the house for decoration? I don't know if the Native Americans worship these things anymore.]]> In my house, we have quite a large and expensive collection of American Indian pottery. I noticed that some of the pottery pieces have designs and paintings on them that, I would assume, are ancient Native American gods. Some of them look like kachina dolls, and some of the designs look like the sun with a face on it, etc. Is it OK for me to have these things in the house for decoration? I don't know if the Native Americans worship these things anymore.]]>