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			<title><![CDATA[Understanding the Types of Prohibited Relationships]]></title>
			<link>https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=2062</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Note: I am basing my comments and questions below on the descriptions of the prohibited relationships found here: <a href="https://asknoah.org/7-commandments/forbidden-relations" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://asknoah.org/7-commandments/forbidden-relations</a><br />
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There appear to be three different "types" of prohibited relationships:<br />
<ol type="1" class="mycode_list"><li>There are six "forbidden" relationships (one's mother, one's father's wife, another man's wife, another male, an animal, and one's maternal sister).<br />
</li>
<li>There is one relationship that is "universally accepted" as prohibited (one's daughter).<br />
</li>
<li>There is one relationship that is an "abomination to G-d" (female-female).<br />
</li>
</ol>
Am I correct that this is indeed an intended demarcation of three different types of prohibited relationships?<br />
<br />
If so, could you explain the distinctions between the types? That is, why are they separated into different types in precisely this way? For example, here are some questions that this raises in my mind:<br />
<ol type="1" class="mycode_list"><li>Are we to understand that, although all of the above relationships are bad, those of the first type (i.e. those that are "forbidden") are in some sense worse than the rest?<br />
</li>
<li>Or perhaps since type 3 is called an "abomination", that implies <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">it</span> is actually the worse type?<br />
</li>
<li>Maybe the distinction means relationships of type 2 and 3 could be appropriate under some very limited circumstances whereas those of type 1 are never appropriate?<br />
</li>
<li>The second type is described as being "universally accepted" as prohibited. I assume this means that at some point in the past, essentially all humankind agreed not to engage in that type of relationship. Is such a decision by people in the past morally binding on people alive now or is it just a "very strong recommendation" on the basis of human experience? If it is morally binding, why so (that is, how does a decision by people in the past bind us morally today)?<br />
</li>
<li>Why would a sin which is an abomination not also be categorized as "forbidden"? Or are all abominations implicitly forbidden?<br />
</li>
<li>Which would be "worse": committing a sin that is an abomination, but isn't forbidden (female-female relationship), or committing a forbidden sin that isn't capital (maternal sister relationship)?<br />
</li>
</ol>
<br />
Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Note: I am basing my comments and questions below on the descriptions of the prohibited relationships found here: <a href="https://asknoah.org/7-commandments/forbidden-relations" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://asknoah.org/7-commandments/forbidden-relations</a><br />
<br />
There appear to be three different "types" of prohibited relationships:<br />
<ol type="1" class="mycode_list"><li>There are six "forbidden" relationships (one's mother, one's father's wife, another man's wife, another male, an animal, and one's maternal sister).<br />
</li>
<li>There is one relationship that is "universally accepted" as prohibited (one's daughter).<br />
</li>
<li>There is one relationship that is an "abomination to G-d" (female-female).<br />
</li>
</ol>
Am I correct that this is indeed an intended demarcation of three different types of prohibited relationships?<br />
<br />
If so, could you explain the distinctions between the types? That is, why are they separated into different types in precisely this way? For example, here are some questions that this raises in my mind:<br />
<ol type="1" class="mycode_list"><li>Are we to understand that, although all of the above relationships are bad, those of the first type (i.e. those that are "forbidden") are in some sense worse than the rest?<br />
</li>
<li>Or perhaps since type 3 is called an "abomination", that implies <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">it</span> is actually the worse type?<br />
</li>
<li>Maybe the distinction means relationships of type 2 and 3 could be appropriate under some very limited circumstances whereas those of type 1 are never appropriate?<br />
</li>
<li>The second type is described as being "universally accepted" as prohibited. I assume this means that at some point in the past, essentially all humankind agreed not to engage in that type of relationship. Is such a decision by people in the past morally binding on people alive now or is it just a "very strong recommendation" on the basis of human experience? If it is morally binding, why so (that is, how does a decision by people in the past bind us morally today)?<br />
</li>
<li>Why would a sin which is an abomination not also be categorized as "forbidden"? Or are all abominations implicitly forbidden?<br />
</li>
<li>Which would be "worse": committing a sin that is an abomination, but isn't forbidden (female-female relationship), or committing a forbidden sin that isn't capital (maternal sister relationship)?<br />
</li>
</ol>
<br />
Thank you!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Sex Within Marriage and Evil Inclination]]></title>
			<link>https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=2046</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[The first book of Tanya repeatedly discusses the obligation for a person to overcome his evil inclination, whether it is for food or for sexual desire. However, how is sexual relations sanctified upon two people getting married? If a man is to have intercourse with his wife, is he not still arousing his lust, thus empowering the evil inclination? How does one ever hope to become righteous, if he should have that as his goal, when the Torah commands him to take on the obligation to please his wife?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[The first book of Tanya repeatedly discusses the obligation for a person to overcome his evil inclination, whether it is for food or for sexual desire. However, how is sexual relations sanctified upon two people getting married? If a man is to have intercourse with his wife, is he not still arousing his lust, thus empowering the evil inclination? How does one ever hope to become righteous, if he should have that as his goal, when the Torah commands him to take on the obligation to please his wife?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Noahide Weddings Officiated by a Rabbi]]></title>
			<link>https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=2030</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2016 23:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.asknoah.org/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=5113">Pianohero</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I have read about noahides getting their rabbi to perform a wedding, but the thing is that I am not a member of any synogogue. I know there are websites where you can hire people, including rabbis, for the wedding, but I am on a budget, and I dont think I would be able to find a rabbi though those websites for less than &#36;200 dollars. I have also heard of rabbis doing it pro-bono, or for voluntary donations, but I assume this is for people that are members of a particular synagogue? Also, would any rabbi be equipped for a noahide wedding, or would I need a "noahide specialist" rabbi? Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I have read about noahides getting their rabbi to perform a wedding, but the thing is that I am not a member of any synogogue. I know there are websites where you can hire people, including rabbis, for the wedding, but I am on a budget, and I dont think I would be able to find a rabbi though those websites for less than &#36;200 dollars. I have also heard of rabbis doing it pro-bono, or for voluntary donations, but I assume this is for people that are members of a particular synagogue? Also, would any rabbi be equipped for a noahide wedding, or would I need a "noahide specialist" rabbi? Thank you.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Pre Marital Sex]]></title>
			<link>https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=2027</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2016 05:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[What is the thorough EXPLANATION from Noahide Laws Perspective when it comes to Pre Marital Sex?<br />
<br />
Toda Rabah]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[What is the thorough EXPLANATION from Noahide Laws Perspective when it comes to Pre Marital Sex?<br />
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Toda Rabah]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Does a gentile ex-cohabitor need to get a divorce document?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=2026</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2016 02:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.asknoah.org/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=5113">Pianohero</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Maimonides seems to teach that when Gentiles merely live together, they are "married". Does this mean that if someone wants to marry a person that used to "cohabit" with a boyfriend, that person needs to get a "get"? I am engaged, and my fiancée has never been married, but she did live with her long time boyfriend in the past. Does she need a "get" even though she wasn't married, and even though she says they never had the intention or plan of marrying?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Maimonides seems to teach that when Gentiles merely live together, they are "married". Does this mean that if someone wants to marry a person that used to "cohabit" with a boyfriend, that person needs to get a "get"? I am engaged, and my fiancée has never been married, but she did live with her long time boyfriend in the past. Does she need a "get" even though she wasn't married, and even though she says they never had the intention or plan of marrying?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Birth control pills]]></title>
			<link>https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=2025</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2016 02:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello, is there a halachic, authoritative answer regarding Noahides and pills such as Plan B?  Thank you in advance!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello, is there a halachic, authoritative answer regarding Noahides and pills such as Plan B?  Thank you in advance!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[When the prohibition of seclusion with a forbidden partner applies for Gentiles]]></title>
			<link>https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=1999</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.asknoah.org/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=13438">Hrvatski Noahid</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[B"H<br />
<br />
Sh'lom Michael, <br />
<br />
the Divine Code states (p 555, topic 18):<br />
<br />
"There is no prohibition of seclusion for Gentiles with elderly people who have already lost all lust for licentiousness. Therefore, an elderly man may be secluded with a younger woman, or an elderly woman with a younger man, since they would not normally be drawn into licentious acts."<br />
<br />
Is there a source which gives the exact age when a person loses his or her lust?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[B"H<br />
<br />
Sh'lom Michael, <br />
<br />
the Divine Code states (p 555, topic 18):<br />
<br />
"There is no prohibition of seclusion for Gentiles with elderly people who have already lost all lust for licentiousness. Therefore, an elderly man may be secluded with a younger woman, or an elderly woman with a younger man, since they would not normally be drawn into licentious acts."<br />
<br />
Is there a source which gives the exact age when a person loses his or her lust?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Liability for abuse vs. capital sin]]></title>
			<link>https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=1962</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2015 19:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[In the Divine Code it speaks of sex with a girl under three and boy under nine is not a capital offence. And its not considered sex.  Can you explain this?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[In the Divine Code it speaks of sex with a girl under three and boy under nine is not a capital offence. And its not considered sex.  Can you explain this?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Never-married individuals]]></title>
			<link>https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=629</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.asknoah.org/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=23817">ann4992</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[How does Judaic law interpret individuals who never marry?   They are not homosexual.  In particular, does a woman have to marry to be a righteous gentile or a practicing jew?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[How does Judaic law interpret individuals who never marry?   They are not homosexual.  In particular, does a woman have to marry to be a righteous gentile or a practicing jew?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Celibacy]]></title>
			<link>https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=367</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.asknoah.org/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=4084">Daniel2</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Is it wrong or forbidden to purposely commit one's self to life long celibacy or to claim that one is being more righteous or benefiting in any way from it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Is it wrong or forbidden to purposely commit one's self to life long celibacy or to claim that one is being more righteous or benefiting in any way from it?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Homosexual "marriage" & relations]]></title>
			<link>https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=286</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 00:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.asknoah.org/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=4084">Daniel2</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I know homosexual realtions is forbidden and that homosexual marriage would really be an oximoron, but I wanted to know, would it be wrong or immoral for a government in any state or country to change the legal definition of marriage to include marriage between same sex couples, thus allowing them to be married under civil law and to have the same rights and benefits as other married couples? This is becoming an increasingly controversial topic, especially where I live in California. The main argument of those who want homosexual "marriage" is that it is a civil rights issue and that by denying it to same sex couples, it is being discriminatory and even hateful, and they compare it to denying interracial marriage, in which a minority is being discriminated against. There are even rabbis in the reform and progressive movements who are furious about marriage being denied to same sex couples and say that it is hate and discrimination. To me, it would seem like society would be condoning immoral behavior. Would this be a dangerous path for a government/society to take?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I know homosexual realtions is forbidden and that homosexual marriage would really be an oximoron, but I wanted to know, would it be wrong or immoral for a government in any state or country to change the legal definition of marriage to include marriage between same sex couples, thus allowing them to be married under civil law and to have the same rights and benefits as other married couples? This is becoming an increasingly controversial topic, especially where I live in California. The main argument of those who want homosexual "marriage" is that it is a civil rights issue and that by denying it to same sex couples, it is being discriminatory and even hateful, and they compare it to denying interracial marriage, in which a minority is being discriminated against. There are even rabbis in the reform and progressive movements who are furious about marriage being denied to same sex couples and say that it is hate and discrimination. To me, it would seem like society would be condoning immoral behavior. Would this be a dangerous path for a government/society to take?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Male/female shaking hands, friendshiips, etc.]]></title>
			<link>https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=256</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[B""H <br />
<br />
Sh"lom dear Director Michael and Academy Rabbis,<br />
Is it allowed to an adult noahide woman to shake hands with (if yes, under which circumstances) or to give a hug or a kiss to an adult noahide man (except her husband) incl. her brother from the same mother, her father or grandfather?<br />
Thanks for all your help, happy Pessach to all the jewish participates on this forum and immediate redemption to the whole world! <img src="https://www.asknoah.org/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[B""H <br />
<br />
Sh"lom dear Director Michael and Academy Rabbis,<br />
Is it allowed to an adult noahide woman to shake hands with (if yes, under which circumstances) or to give a hug or a kiss to an adult noahide man (except her husband) incl. her brother from the same mother, her father or grandfather?<br />
Thanks for all your help, happy Pessach to all the jewish participates on this forum and immediate redemption to the whole world! <img src="https://www.asknoah.org/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" />]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Non-marital sex vs. living together]]></title>
			<link>https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=220</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.asknoah.org/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=3074">AZNoahide</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I have a question.  Is it forbidden for a Noahide to have pre-marital sex?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I have a question.  Is it forbidden for a Noahide to have pre-marital sex?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Intermarriage and ramifications]]></title>
			<link>https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=1939</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.asknoah.org/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=0">Joachim ben Noach</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[BS"D<br />
<br />
There is no such concept as intermarriage among the nations? A Gentile is a Gentile, in every matter (of who marries whom)?<br />
<br />
Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[BS"D<br />
<br />
There is no such concept as intermarriage among the nations? A Gentile is a Gentile, in every matter (of who marries whom)?<br />
<br />
Thank you.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Noahide ritual purity?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=171</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.asknoah.org/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=587">Teodor</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[B''H<br />
<br />
Sh'lom Director Michael and Academy Rabbis,<br />
Does a Noahide become ritually unclean after having a seminal discharge or an abnormal discharge (which would be the case by a Jew), and are there any requirements of eventual actions of a ritual purification before praying (mentioning G-D's Name) for a Noahide man (or a woman) who has had any form of discharge?<br />
Thank you for your answers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[B''H<br />
<br />
Sh'lom Director Michael and Academy Rabbis,<br />
Does a Noahide become ritually unclean after having a seminal discharge or an abnormal discharge (which would be the case by a Jew), and are there any requirements of eventual actions of a ritual purification before praying (mentioning G-D's Name) for a Noahide man (or a woman) who has had any form of discharge?<br />
Thank you for your answers.]]></content:encoded>
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